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Poster: Extinguiderm Date: Apr 7, 2005 1:31pm
Forum: etree Subject: Track Gaps in MP3 Versions

Hi all, please excuse the bandwidth if this is a FAQ; I tried searching the site for info on it but to no avail. I am downloading MP3 versions of Dead shows to burn to disc, not to trade or even archive, just to listen to, and each show has a 1/2 or 1 second gap between each tune; this is NOT from burning track-at-once, I'm burning DAO. I'm a bit mentally challenged when it comes to the whole SHN thing, and I find the MP3's easier and perfectly suitable for my listening (and download time) pleasure. Is there a reason for these gaps? Is there an easy way to get rid of them or avoid them? I'm using Easy CD Creator to burn, on an HP Pavilion PC. Thanks for any info or help, and again I apologize for the bandwidth. Thanks!

-JRH

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Poster: Ole Uncle John Date: Apr 7, 2005 1:45pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Track Gaps in MP3 Versions

I share your problem and don't know the answer. To piggy-back on your post I also wanted to ask if anyone knew of any MP3 players that will play gap-less(kind of a buzz kill on WRS and other GD jams)

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Poster: Jim F Date: Apr 7, 2005 3:55pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Track Gaps in MP3 Versions

I have the same problem. But I do burn these mp3s to disc to listen to(not for trade, etc...). When I load the converted wav files into Cooledit, the gaps are seen in the wavform, and can be deleted. But this is a hassle. I think this is some way to maybe track the mp3s, similar to cuts introduced on copies of shows so the people who leak them know where they are going. Or it is some kind of punishment for using the evil MP3 format.

This post was modified by Jim F on 2005-04-07 22:55:11

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Poster: Extinguiderm Date: Apr 7, 2005 9:27pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Track Gaps in MP3 Versions

Hey gang, thanks for the replies; Jim, I noticed the same thing when I loaded them into CoolEdit; of course, doing this with the 25 or so tracks for just one show would be a hassle,but to do it for many shows would be an even greater hassle! I think you're right about punishment for use of the evil MP3! And for my laziness, too...

Ming, I think you may be referring to Track-At-Once recording vs. Disc-At-Once; these gaps, as Jim mentioned, seem to be in the files themselves, as PART of the file. I do wonder if Nero might be a better burning suite, tho...

Thanks again, still hoping for a definitive answer; I won't be offended if they are put there on purpose, I'm just curious why!

-JRH

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Jul 20, 2005 11:23pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Track Gaps in MP3 Versions

What exactlys is SHN? Is it the same as the "shorten" DL file option listed for shows?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffBrad Leblanc Date: Jul 20, 2005 11:27pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Track Gaps in MP3 Versions

Yes, SHN = shorten. If you look at the files, they all end with the file extension of ".shn"

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Poster: ming Date: Apr 7, 2005 5:26pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Track Gaps in MP3 Versions

Your problem may be the Easy CD Creator. I had the same gap when I used this or Windows Media Player. If you can get a Real One player there is an option selection to Not have a 2 second gap between songs. I am not a computer whiz so I don't know if this was automatically included in the setup or how it got on the computer. Sorry. Hope you can find it cuz I know how annoying those gaps are.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffBrad Leblanc Date: Apr 7, 2005 11:08pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Track Gaps in MP3 Versions

Is there a reason for these gaps??

The MP3's are the reason for the gaps. Encoding the files to that format removes all chance of seamless transitions between songs. MP3 is a lossy compression format. When using it, the quality of the files suffers. I'm not saying they are unlistenable, but I am saying that they are probably the cause of the issues you describe.

Is there an easy way to get rid of them or avoid them?

Learn to use the lossless files of FLAC and SHN. If you decode those to WAV and burn that to disc, there will be no gaps, or the only gaps you hear will be those that were on the master WAV files that were seeded. It really isn't any tougher to use those formats than MP3 - download the files and use software to decode them.

Check the FAQ's, they will point you to tons of info about what you need to decode those filetypes to WAV. If you are burning CD's, there's no substitute for lossless - once you figure it out you'll probably never go back to MP3 for CD's.

This post was modified by Brad Leblanc on 2005-04-08 06:08:34

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Poster: jcroot Date: Apr 7, 2005 11:38pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Track Gaps in MP3 Versions

In both Nero and itunes there is an option to not have a gap between tracks. In Nero it's on the first burning page. In itunes, it's in the preferences (i think under burning). Not sure about ezcdcreator though. Try out Nero's 30 day unrestricted trial - it works fine.

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Poster: Jim F Date: Apr 8, 2005 8:11am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Track Gaps in MP3 Versions

Yeah, it's not the burning or decoding software, the gaps are built into the files. There's no way around them.

I would love to download SHN and Flac, but my connection is just too slow. Those 30 minute Dark Stars take like 10 hours to download for me. I do have some SHN downloads, like for the last TWO WEEKS I've been downloading the second set of DSO 1/24/03. Believe me, if I could drop this slow internet connection, I'd be dl'ing shn and Flac instead...

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Poster: Extinguiderm Date: Apr 9, 2005 12:38am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Track Gaps in MP3 Versions

I agree with Jim, and I respectfully disagree with Brad's assertion that the MP3's are the cause of it. I have d'l'ded MP3 shows from other sites in years past and there were no gaps. Not to deny the superiority of FLAC and SHN, I completely agree with the philosophy of the lossless format, but, like you Jim, I have a problem with the extreme amount of time it would take me to d'ld a 1 GIG show file (no pun intended :) ... I will get there, though... Meantime, nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile at our good fortune in having this resource! Thanks again all;

-just a curious JRH

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Poster: rtyall Date: Nov 18, 2005 2:43am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Track Gaps in MP3 Versions

A bit late now, but...
If you get an audio editing program, like wavelab, audacity, goldwave, etc. Then you can open the mp3, crop any gaps at the start and end (usually between 0 and .5 of a second depending on what encoded it and what settings were used) then save the file as a .wav
Then just burn all for gapless music.

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